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Seize the Moment Podcast

Jun 25, 2023

On episode 176, we welcome Julia Keller to discuss the importance of knowing when to quit, the history of the self-help industry, how the notion of ‘grit’ helps sustain elitism and privilege, the cultural and internal shame surrounding the desire to quit, quitting as embedded in human nature and what animal studies teach us about it, the quitting formula and realizing that a decision is ineffective, the neuroscience of quitting and the brain chemicals related to it, Julia’s cynicism and how she learned when to quit, the negative beliefs normally associated with giving up, The Great Gatsby and our tendency to moralize perseverance, the difference between responsibility and blame and its importance, and how to begin to accept and use our inherent limitations.

Julia Keller, PhD, is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, novelist, and teacher. She has a Ph.D. in English Literature from the Ohio State University, and has taught at Princeton University, the University of Chicago, and the University of Notre Dame. She was the chief book critic and a staff writer at The Chicago Tribune for many years, before quitting the world of daily journalism to write books. Her new book, available now, is called Quitting: A Life Strategy: The Myth of Perseverance―and How the New Science of Giving Up Can Set You Free.


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